. >> his name is steven law. he was the ceo of american crossroads, and a very able guy. lou: i got you. until then, if it's all right, we'll just stick with you. is that all right? >> all right. >> in ohio, around the country, we're looking at the wall street journal reporting $150 million raised last month for the obama campaign. we'll told by the romney campaign theirs is going to be impressive, but we don't have any numbers. do you have a sense that the romney campaign is keeping pace with that extraordinary fundraising result for the president's campaign? >> you know, i don't know the numbers, but my suspicion is that that's a very impressive number by president obama, and while he was, in essence, his cash on hand began to dwindle starting in may had he spent all the money on tv, this is going to get way in the weeds, but it's very important. if you're obama or romney, the money that you have in your own campaign treasury is the money most easy to spend with the biggest impact, and you're guaranteed, if you're obama or romney in getting the lowest unit rate, the low